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[waldiebeast]

My idea of Tactical AK:
-Soviet/East German nyte sytes
-Torniquet wrapped around stock for better cheekweld
-Bandage pack within torniquet for extremely rare incidents when we get shot, rarely
-Tactical asspad for reduced recoil
-Tactical AK-74 muzzle brake for greater reduced recoil
-Tactical Soviet canvas sling.
-Soviet AK-74 laminated wooden handguard with palm swell for better handling
-Tactical ribbed top cover for lightened weight
-Lightweight GP-25 grenade launcher for tactical room clearing and integrated angled foregrip for better handling(f**k you magpull)
-(optional)bluetape for taping two magazines together for tactical reload

Agreed 100%.

[The_Guv]

If the Party, in all their wisdom, thought you needed rails and sinks on your Kalashnikov, it would have been provided.

[C.E.N.I.C]

If the Party, in all their wisdom, thought you needed rails and sinks on your Kalashnikov, it would have been provided.

Thats like saying, we had Horses & they worked fine! So why need Cars!

[adadqgg]

Thats like saying, we had Horses & they worked fine! So why need Cars!

Party issued motorized vehicles...usually not horses.

[5224]

...not if Budyonny had anything to say about that (and that he had for quite some time, see Tukhachevsky's trial as an example).

[adadqgg]

I think I need to add:
This is Anatoly Lebed, real hero of Russia, and he uses AK without 20mm rail:

When he had his AK by his side; chechen RPG and bullets could not kill him.
20mm rail does not make you super 1337 operator.

Did 45th Separate Guards Special Purpose Regiment need railed AK? nope.

[dex]

Did 45th Separate Guards Special Purpose Regiment need railed AK? nope.

but FSB needed

[LoneSniperSG]

adadqgg you made me feel better about owning an AKM, lol. Here I thought I was stuck in the past, but I see three of them in your post.

[Kill001]

I almost always think of this image when someone brings up tactical and ak in one sentence



hope y'all enjoy it

[motus]

Guys, you're complicating too much. For airsoft practical wise you don't need any of the tacticool accessories because of the nature of airsoft guns. They don't have recoil and their range is short. In real combats average figting distance is 200-500m (sometimes shorter, rarely longer). In that case accessories like optics and red dots will give you the edge.
Flashlights have completley different purpose. It's not for the user to see during the night (it's worse idea than waving red flag during the day), but in cqb to identify the threat and to "blind" the target for a brief second. (remeber how in all those raid videos bad guys squint when flashed (with flashlights!) by the cops. Untill their eyes get used to so much light in their face it's too late)

As for airsoft goes, if the unit you want to re-enact uses it, so should you. If they don't use it, you don't use it either.

[Falcon]

The average fighting distance today is well below 100m!
This is also one of the reasons why I can't understand anyone badmouthing the AK as "inaccurate" because within 100m it does it's job easily.
That's also the reason why there are mostly Reflex Sights on those "Tactical" AKs and not scopes with magnification.
They use it the exact same way Airsofters use them, for easier and faster target acquisition.
But to be honest, I don't know why EO-Techs and Aimpoints are necessary for this. I had a real 552, Comp M2 and I own several russian optics.
I prefer the Kobra over them any day! Well it's personal taste but yeah, I haven't seen where this optic should be inferior to the ones mentioned above.
It does it's job, is very solid, great FOV and I just love the reticle with the three lines, it's also sharp and clear.
On the lowest settings I can even use it with my Gen 2+ HP NVG without burning the reticle into the tube.
With the real operators it seems to me mostly like a political message. "Look we can also have the best of your western optics and accessory! We're also a modern army!"

€dit:
But to be honest, when playing with my Defender Replica I can understand some looking for a retractable Stock, because the original is getting quite long then, even for me being 1,90m.
My personal opinion is one should differentiate reenacting and playing. If someone is just playing and doesn't call himself "super spetsnaz" and it helps him in some way,
like a Tac-Light for a heavy CQB player or a retractable Stock for a very small person, well,
let it be, the real ones wouldn't do it any other way if they allways had the possibility.

[Jay]

^ Agreed.

[adadqgg]

I almost always think of this image when someone brings up tactical and ak in one sentence



hope y'all enjoy it

+1

Ivan Chesnokov; leading people in politically correct direction as always.

Full link: http://www.m1-garand-rifle.com/ivan-chesnokov.php

[Coop]

I cringe at the concept of American made or designed Rails on an AK.  Yes, some people need such a setup for their jobs and their lives depend on it and yadda yadda yadda.

If it's ugly, but it works, then whatever.

Now, with that out of the way, the only "Black rifle AK's" have to be entirely Russian made with Russian (or Belorussian) Accessories:

AK74M with Polymer Furniture. (Gross, but if the mission calls for all black, then so be it)

BelOMO PK-A Red Dot, mounted with the traditional side rail.  (That covers your optics.  If you need zoom, throw a POSP up there.  If you need lower profile, go with a Kobra)

Zenit 2DC with KR7 Mount (There's your illumination.  AA batteries with a strobe feature, can't beat that!  Mounting details: http://k-a-r-d-e-n.livejournal.com/22033.html be warned, a lot of the guns on Karden's site are fucking gross... but he's the one out there fighting terrorists, not me, so go him!)

BelOMO TSL-03 (There's your laser/designatior.   You'll need to extend the pressure switch line so it works properly on a full size 74, as they're build for the aks74u series.  Otherwise it's a simple front sight post clamp with a laser and battery)

This weapon gives you 3 of the common "cool guy" addons, of a light, laser, and speedy target acquisition at close ranges without using a single American designed rail.  In my head this is tasteful, simple, tactical, and not too bad of an eyesore.

[Comrade Cuddles]

Few tactical Ak pics...









I was surfing the net and stumbled across these a little bit ago and thought of this thread so I thought I'd share.

[Jay]

Seeing those pics how can someone still doubt that tactical AKs are just ugly?

[Comrade Cuddles]

I'd have to agree. I mean don't get me wrong  I think wood on a lot of different rifles is a beautiful thing, but those look pretty damn mean. I run a Eotech on one of my real Ak's at home, I'll be honest it's an awesome sight for that weapon system.

[Coop]

They're very ugly.  The rails kill it.  Rails are very American and NATO.  In my last post you can get all of the tacticool accessories without rails.  While less modular, the setup remains tactical, Russian made, and gets the job done.

[C.E.N.I.C]

I personally think they look good, check this pic out! But it is all Personal opinion

[Kill001]

Best 'tactikul' ak by far

[adadqgg]

I was surfing the net and stumbled across these a little bit ago and thought of this thread so I thought I'd share.

Yes I am sure that AK is named SR-3M...

Also see how first few pictures have AK with lots of rails but few accesories.
You know someone is doing it wrong when:
Buy expensive tri/quad railed handguard; mount foregrip.
Rail on left side of scope mount AND on handguard mounting nothing at all.

...etc.

Is like n00b capitalist-softers who buy amazing RS quality madbull DD 7inch rails just to put rail covers over them.

[Spinal]

I'm sorry to derail, but the soldier with the SR-3M - what uniform is that?  I've never seen a Russian soldier dressed in such an overtly Western style: khaki uniform with zip-up side pockets, loose trouser cuffs, hiking boots, and a MultiCam MOLLE vest.

[dex]

I personally think they look good, check this pic out! But it is all Personal opinion

Akms with b square mount
Yummie

[LoneSniperSG]

+1

Ivan Chesnokov; leading people in politically correct direction as always.

Full link: http://www.m1-garand-rifle.com/ivan-chesnokov.php

That was a riot to read.

[ricecakes]

Haters gonna hate.

What works best in real life, may not be the most optically pleasing to you.  Suck it up.