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« on: June 29, 2007, 12:48:49 PM »

Does the Russian military actually use these soldier-of-fortune-pop-art-style dog tags, or are they just trinkets for militaria collectors and ebay collectors?

http://www.tridentmilitary.com/RUSSIANMILITARIA/Russian.dogtags.html
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« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2007, 02:07:09 PM »

Trinkets, mostly.
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« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2007, 02:39:54 PM »

I'm sure real Russian soldiers would laugh at someone wearing such a thing...

I have a few though, they are a bit of fun  Cool
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« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2007, 02:44:30 PM »

I've read the book from Arkadij Babchenko about the war in Chechnya and he  says their dogtags were selfmade of steel spoons...
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« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2007, 02:48:31 PM »

Blimey, have just looked at the link... I've never seen so many!!

I like this one tho:



I have one of those hehe
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« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2007, 08:02:58 PM »

I agree with desantnik that these are fun to look at and some have a bit of imagination to think up these things. And although there are reproductions and fantasy items out there we have to thank the honest sellers like Dmitry at Soviet-Propaganda and Red Soldier for offering us items that are the real deal so to speak. Before the wall came down it was impossible to get these items or anything military related to the former Soviet Union. I can honestly say that we are very lucky now to be able to acquire such items for our collections or for use and at such reasonable prices as well!
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« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2007, 09:06:31 AM »

Well, we used to get bits, but you would have paid megabucks for them... People's Army had a fair collection pre-1989...

The same is true today of Cuban items, I try hard to collect them but they are hard to find and damned expensive.
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« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2007, 11:02:42 PM »

This is my real VV MVD dog tag with my personal number. I got it then i was on Caucassus. Soldiers (sergeants)-on-appeal receive them only at participation in confrontations. Officers and military-men-under-contract have them always. Other armies dog tags are same except for inscription on top (here is MVD of RUSSIA)
This is soldier-on-appeal personal nuber (two letters, six numbers). Officers and military-men-under-contract personal number has one letter and six or seven numbers (sorry, i can't remember... :roll: )
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« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2007, 03:30:35 AM »

Excellent, thats something I have never seen before!

I knew the real issued things weren't anything like the colourful things we've talked about here, but have never seen one.

I believe some sort of official dog tags were also issued in Afganistan, but no idea what they looked like, but certainly plain and not fancy!
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« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2007, 06:43:14 PM »

Fush, hanks for posting the real dog tag pic. Really interesting.
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« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2007, 03:24:57 AM »

Quote from: "DIMITRI 35"
Fush, hanks for posting the real dog tag pic. Really interesting.

Inferior Intellegence keep reading forums? Wink
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« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2007, 07:44:11 PM »

My dogtag is the same but Russian soldier can purchase them for thier girlfriends or to family, as far as I know, I pick one up at a store not too far from here.
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« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2007, 10:11:22 PM »

Is there anywhere you can get custom or replicas for re-enactment?
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« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2007, 12:11:29 AM »

I can get then now, but unfortunately can't do any engravings on it
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« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2007, 01:31:03 AM »

Do you mean totally blank Dmitry or with the "MVD of Russia" but no serial number stamped?
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« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2007, 01:44:48 AM »

There would be "MVD of RUSSIA", "FSB of RUSSIA", e.t.c.
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« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2008, 11:57:09 AM »

Hello Comrades

I have recently bought some colourful Russian dog-tags from ebay, I know that a real Russian soldier doesn't wear them and they are just show, but they are very nice and i want to use them. I read some where that in the first chechen war they Russian troops use to do dog-tags from spoons and such so I can safely say that they do use dog-tags what I want to know now is what do they put on them?

Here is an US example:
SMITH
JOHN D
123-45-6789
O POS
NO PREF

what's the Russian version?

Thanks for all of the help.
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« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2008, 12:56:03 PM »

This is what Arkady Babchenko writes about the dog tags issued to him and his fellow soldiers just before they were sent into Chechnya. As this was in the mid 90's these things have most certainly changed since then.
The dog-tags issued were made of aluminium and contained only the soldiers serial number, for example: Arkadys own 629 600. In fear of these melting if you died inside a burning vehicle the soldiers had new ones made in towns nearby. These were made of steel and usually contained the soldiers last name, year of birth, address and blood type, the address being the most important to be sure of getting your corpse home. Those who didn't have the money, or for some other reason did not buy new ones, broke of the "scoop" part of a steel spoon and engraved their name and blood type on it.
This was over ten years ago, but if you're looking for a dog-tag to fit an impression from that time, then this might be of help to you.
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« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2008, 01:03:25 PM »

Topics merged, be sure to check Fush's excellent photograph of a currenct MVD VV dog tag!
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« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2008, 01:51:12 PM »

I saw one for sale at War n Peace the other day... I am guesing it is Soviet period and from what I've worked out must have been from a war zone (because they didn't have them otherwise)... soldier own made or issued I cannot tell, but it was hexagon shaped, made from aluminium and looked either scribed by punching lots of dots, or electro-pencil. In a very typical Soviet script, the main detail was "Pota 4" but there were other details on it too which I cannot remember. Had a hole drilled in it presumably to wear around the neck. About 35mm across.

I was very interested but at 25 quid (US$50!) I decided to leave it behind.

Was with a dealer I know from Moscow, in his "good stuff" cabinet, so think it was probably authentic.
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